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作者: 創輝 時間: 2023-2-12 11:00 PM 標題: [第三度出擊 美軍F-22戰機擊落加拿大領空不明物][大紀元][2023-02-12]
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圖為一架美國F-22戰鬥機於2022年12月20日在韓國崑山的聯合空中演習中降落在崑山空軍基地。示意圖。(South Korean Defense Ministry via Getty Images)
【新唐人北京時間2023年02月12日訊】加拿大官方2月11日證實，美軍F-22戰機當天擊落了加國領空不明物體，這是在美國領空擊落中共間諜氣球之後，美軍F-22戰機本月第三度出擊，擊落入侵美、加領空的物體。
加拿大總理特魯多（Justin Trudeau）11日下午透過推特表示，「北美防空司令部（的戰機）擊落了育空（Yukon）上空的物體。加拿大和美國的飛機緊急起飛，一架美國F-22成功向該物體開火（將其擊落）」。
特魯多說，「正在回收並分析這個物體的殘骸。」
美國國防部也透過發言人賴德（Pat Ryder）發出聲明表示，美軍昨天（11日）晚間在阿拉斯加上空探測到此物體，阿拉斯加美軍基地的2架F-22戰機密切跟蹤，當此物體進入加拿大領空後，也持續監測，加拿大CF-18與CP-140戰機也加入編隊共同評估此物體。
在拜登與特魯多通話後，拜登授權美軍戰機與加拿大合作，由美軍F-22戰機擊落這個物體。加拿大當局將展開回收行動，並對該物體進行分析。
目前尚不清楚該不明物體來自何方，也不清楚它是否與上週被擊落的中共間諜氣球有關。
本月4日，美國F-22戰機擊落了入侵美國領空的中共間諜氣球，這次事件直接導致了美國國務卿布林肯（Antony Blinken）的訪華計劃取消。
本月10日，美國F-22戰機又擊落了阿拉斯加上空的一個不明物體，但美國方面並未透露這個物體究竟是什麼東西，它屬於哪個國家，它在執行什麼任務。
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2023年2月5日，美國海軍在南卡羅來那州附近海域打撈中共間諜氣球殘骸。（Petty Officer 1st Class Tyler Thompson/U.S. Navy via Getty Images）
但網上有許多猜測認為，這可能與上一隻中共間諜氣球一樣，都來自中國，只是在不同地點執行某種任務。
在擊落第一個中共間諜氣球後，美國方面調查確認，這隻氣球由中共軍方的「氣球艦隊」操控，用於情報收集活動。美國國務院2月10日表示，被美軍擊落的中共間諜氣球，飛越了五大洲的40多個國家。
（責任編輯：文慧）
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雖然特魯多稱該物體「身分不明」
但北美防空司令部發言人奧利維爾·格蘭特（Olivier Gallant）少校告訴美聯社
軍方已經確定了它是什麼，但不會透露細節
作者: aa0975707559 時間: 2023-2-12 11:57 PM
總不會是打了幾個飛碟名叫阿共 哀
作者: kingnai 時間: 2023-2-13 07:39 AM
美軍F-22戰機擊落加拿大領空不明物???所以全球領空皆屬美國???~~~
作者: mw232 時間: 2023-2-13 08:48 AM
同樣也是大妓院報導說的好
F-22戰鬥機問世以來，還沒有實戰記錄
F-22擊落一個中共間諜氣球不算一次空戰記錄，只能算一次實戰記錄
雖然F22不能再生產了
以後報廢一架就少一架
但這幾次打氣球
F22有機會成為最會打氣球的5代機
作者: zogol 時間: 2023-2-13 09:52 AM
中國對美國太不友善了，趕快來跟台灣建交，畢竟都舔這麼久了…
作者: qqq87112 時間: 2023-2-13 10:53 AM
不就醫個氣球罷了大驚小怪
作者: jichungyang 時間: 2023-2-13 02:48 PM
怎麼這麼多不明飛行物呢?
上次的分析結果到底是間諜氣球還是一班的氣象氣球呢?
好像沒出來說明啊!
只是施放的國家怎能"射後不理'呢
真是...
作者: z40655783 時間: 2023-2-13 03:05 PM
如果又是中共的，我只會拍手叫好，不過對中共而言，應該是無所謂的，畢竟不要臉的程度已經無國可及了
作者: 本史帝文 時間: 2023-2-13 03:51 PM
本帖最後由 本史帝文 於 2023-2-13 03:52 PM 編輯
外星人要注意了！
今後千萬別隨便駕駛UFO到地球來「監視各大國的核彈基地」，無論是中美加等國，都有可能立刻發射導彈將其擊落。
請外星人以後千萬別隨便駕駛UFO，在地球太空低軌道溜達，萬一不幸被地球人的導彈擊落，莫謂言之不預也！
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作者: apache7174 時間: 2023-2-13 06:16 PM
打個氣球
有需要用到F22嗎
作者: ueibobo 時間: 2023-2-13 07:37 PM
就擊落啊，說不定是外星人派來的
作者: mingru1982 時間: 2023-2-14 12:08 AM
中國式故意讓美國練靶嗎?
作者: xeno-2007 時間: 2023-2-14 01:13 AM
apache7174 發表於 2023-2-13 06:16 PM 
打個氣球
有需要用到F22嗎
加拿大的美製F18消耗了千發20mm子彈，竟然打不到流浪氣球。
美軍判斷F15和F16在平流層/Stratosphere的運動性能不佳，
流浪氣球的RCS又太小，不能以aim-120在視距外攻擊。
所以F22要以高速+高仰角，在平流層/Stratosphere，用有影像分析能力的新型aim-9x，視距內攻擊流浪氣球。
不能省錢，用追熱的aim-9倉低貨！
作者: ak999 時間: 2023-2-14 04:52 PM
聽說不排除這個不明物體
是外星人的物體
哈哈哈
中國跟外星人都在監控美國
太有趣了
作者: qwaszx0909 時間: 2023-2-14 07:10 PM
無所謂反正米國跟中共國最好兩敗俱傷
作者: cncheung 時間: 2023-2-15 02:37 PM
本帖最後由 cncheung 於 2023-3-26 07:01 PM 編輯
小弟香港中年胖子，怎麼整件事我都覺得像一套鬧劇似的。氣球是什麼用途先不說，但美國本身是全球最常用飛機和人造衛星監察人家的國家。怎麼還理直氣壯，高調的處理......
題外話：在冷戰時期，美國人造衛星監視中國地方，看到福建的土樓，以為是飛彈發射井，引起過美方內部緊張和嚴肅處理...... 另一次是較近的事，美國軍機多次近距離偵察中國大陸，曾引起與中方戰機相撞事故。偵察機急降中國機場，人員飛機被扣留 (中國戰機機師身亡)。美方高調中方不能檢查飛機，因為是屬於美國的資產......
作者: w49003006 時間: 2023-2-15 06:06 PM
現在事都要自導自演就是了~~還有沒有那麼多氣球
作者: heidguy 時間: 2023-2-16 12:11 AM
中美關係會不會更加緊張呢
作者: xeno-2007 時間: 2023-2-17 12:52 PM
中國大陸看熱鬧鄉民說法：
猜測美軍當時曾向中國氣球發射了可能多達3枚導彈，但只有最后一枚才命中目標。
綠台傳媒說法：
美軍天下無敵，百發百中，小紅中竟然詆毀美軍要浪費3枚貴重的新型aim-9x，才能打倒一個淘寶有售的流浪氣球。
美國軍方向國會報告：
曾動用負責本土防禦的F-16C去應付流浪氣球，怎知在超高空難以操控，先射一枚導彈不中，幸好再補多一發中了；
否則，全數導彈射盡也不中，給天下人恥笑，怎辦！
謹慎行事，後來就把 抵抗流浪氣球侵略、誓死保衛美國家園 的重任，託付給特別任務中隊的美軍皇牌F22。
作者: CWZ 時間: 2023-2-17 07:16 PM
z40655783 發表於 2023-2-13 03:05 PM
如果又是中共的，我只會拍手叫好，不過對中共而言，應該是無所謂的，畢竟不要臉的程度已經無國可及了 ...
美國是全球最不要臉國家
作者: CWZ 時間: 2023-2-17 07:20 PM
qwaszx0909 發表於 2023-2-14 07:10 PM
無所謂反正米國跟中共國最好兩敗俱傷
恁爸希望美國加速衰敗
如此地球才會變好
作者: xeno-2007 時間: 2023-2-17 11:00 PM
本帖最後由 xeno-2007 於 2023-2-17 11:02 PM 編輯
呆Joe拒絕向中國公開道歉，但想致電中國國家主席溝通一下！
雖然美國軍方早已報告白宮，只是平常氣象監測氣球，但呆Joe痴忘病發作，就胡亂說是China's Spy Balloon；還要再錯打3個美國勢力氣球。
不過，厚顏無恥是爭當美利型大統領必備要素，所以死不認錯就是按美國規矩的一貫處事方法。
中方傳媒說：美國共和黨想借故鬧事，再指控民主黨無力抗中。
美方傳媒說：美國以維護世界和平為己任，怎會為了國內黨爭而誣告中國。
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Biden says objects shot down over North America last week appear to not be part of China's spy balloon operation
(CNN) President Joe Biden on Thursday said that the United States has no indication that the three objects shot down in North American air space are tied to China’s spy balloon program and are likely from private entities.
“We don’t yet know exactly what these three objects were but nothing right now suggests they were related to China’s spy balloon program or that they were surveillance vehicles from any other country,” Biden said in his first formal remarks on the objects shot from the sky last weekend over Canada and the US. “The intelligence community’s current assessment is that these three objects were most likely balloons tied to private companies, recreation or research institutions studying weather or conducting other scientific research.”
Biden’s White House speech to address the matter four days after the last known object was shot down comes after the president faced increasing pressure in Washington to be more transparent about the situation and his decision making as commander-in-chief.
Biden emphasized that there hasn’t been evidence to suggest “a sudden increase in the number of objects in the sky.” And although the most recent three objects appear to have been benign, Biden warned, “If any object presents a threat to the safety and security of the American people, I will take it down.”
The president said he has directed his team to devise “sharper rules for how we will deal with these unidentified objects moving forward, distinguishing between those that are likely to pose safety and security risks that necessitate action and those that do not.” Those classified parameters will be shared with Congress when they are finished.
The president also said he’s directing national security adviser Jake Sullivan to lead a “government-wide effort” for how to address future encounters with similar high-altitude objects.
Specifically, the administration will be establishing an improved inventory of unmanned airborne objects above American airspace, implementing further measures to detect the objects, update rules and regulations for encounters with these types of objects above US skies, and establishing common global norms for similar encounters.
The president said he expects to speak with Chinese President Xi Jinping on the matter, along with keeping allies and Congress informed.
“And I hope we are going to get to the bottom of this, but I make no apologies for taking down that balloon,” he added.
China on Friday said the US was “in no position to talk about establishing global norms” after Biden’s pledge to develop new rules for unidentified objects.
“The international practice already has relevant international laws and norms on civil aircraft,” Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesman Wang Wenbin said at a daily press briefing. “The US side overreacted and shot down the Chinese civilian uncrewed airship with excessive force, disregarding international laws and practices.”
Wang also repeated Beijing’s accusation that the US had flown balloons into Chinese airspace in the past – a claim that the White House has denied – and said he had “no information to provide” on potential Biden-Xi talks.
Federal officials have said an initial Chinese surveillance balloon downed off the coast of South Carolina earlier this month was capable of conducting signals intelligence collection operations and had a payload around the size of three buses. By comparison, the subsequent objects, which haven’t been attributed to a specific country or entity, are believed to be much smaller.
It’s anticipated that new protocols on how the US will handle similar unidentified objects going forward will be released this week.
Earlier this week, Canadian officials were candid about the difficult task of recovering debris from high-altitude objects shot down over Canada and the US, admitting it could still take days or weeks and there is no guarantee the debris will be found.
And on Thursday, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police announced the search for debris from high-altitude objects shot down over Canada and the US was suspended in the Lake Huron area. The search will continue in Yukon, the update said.
Administration officials from the Pentagon, State Department and intelligence community have briefed lawmakers on Capitol Hill on the initial Chinese spy balloon in recent days.
Republicans on Capitol Hill have criticized Biden for not approving the military to down the first balloon quickly enough, letting it sail eastward for days. They had also called on him to speak on the matter.
But administration officials argued that the US didn’t move earlier to shoot down the balloon in part over fears it could provoke an escalation of military tensions with China. They also told lawmakers the balloon was not first shot down when it entered Alaskan airspace because the waters there are cold and deep, making it less likely they could have recovered the balloon.
And officials had been wary of having the president speak publicly about the objects until more information was gathered about the three unidentified objects that were downed last weekend.
“He believed it was important to explain what we had learned,” a senior administration official said, adding the president wanted to “put into context” the new rules and the administration’s plans going forward for dealing with the unidentified objects.
Biden on Thursday justified the decision to wait to shoot the Chinese balloon, saying he gave the green light for the US military to take it down “as soon as it was safe to do so.”
“The military advised against shooting it down over land because of the sheer size of it. It was the size of multiple school buses and it posed a risk to people on the ground if it was shot down where people lived,” he said. “Instead, we tracked it closely, we analyzed its capabilities and we learned more about how it operates. Because we knew its path, we were able to protect sensitive sites against collection. We waited until it was safely over water, which would not only protect civilians, but also enable us to recover substantial components for further analytics.”
Shooting down the balloon, Biden added, sent “a clear message that the violation of our sovereignty was unacceptable. We’ll act to protect our country and we did.”
作者: BC0951049 時間: 2023-2-18 12:48 AM
聽說氣球體積小反而很難擊落
作者: xeno-2007 時間: 2023-2-18 02:07 PM
本帖最後由 xeno-2007 於 2023-2-18 02:12 PM 編輯
甚麼大學俱樂部指控美軍，動用過億美元的皇牌F22戰機，消耗數十萬美元的新型AIM-9X導彈，攻擊他們的百元成本氣球，要求美國聯邦政府道歉賠償。
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Did an F-22 Blow Up an Illinois Club's Hobby Balloon?
Last Saturday, high above Canada’s Yukon territory, the pilot of $150 million U.S. Air Force F-22 Raptor, acting on orders from the leaders of both Canada and the U.S., fired a $472,000 AIM-9X Sidewinder missile at a small unidentified cylindrical object flying at an altitude of 40,000 feet, resulting in a confirmed air-to-air “kill.” What NORAD still hasn’t been able to confirm, almost a week later, is what exactly was blown out of the sky on February 11.
Since then, members of the Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade, a club of high-altitude-balloon hobbyists, have been waiting to hear from K9YO-15, the group’s $100 silver mylar “pico” balloon.
REMARK:
The Illinois Club is one of the oldest university social clubs serving the University and Champaign-Urbana community. The purpose of our Club is to promote friendship and education, this purpose is achieved through interest groups, campus tours, University of Illinois scholarship awards, and special events.
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